"Useless things?"
Wang Lei furrowed his brows and shook his head, saying: "That's not right. I've seen the talisman Tao legacy of the Zhuge family, and there are many people in the Hidden Sects who excel in Rune Tao. Although the power of some talismans isn't very strong, they do have certain effects. Once these talismans are drawn, they cannot just be some ordinary ghost talismans; they should be genuine talismans."
Yang Fei smiled and said: "I'm saying that those of you who haven't truly grasped the Dao Yun (mystic charm) of talismans, even if you draw the same runes, they won't become talismans. I didn't say that talisman Tao doesn't exist in this world."
Wang Lei laughed: "Hmm, I don't doubt Rune Tao. Didn't you just carve a talisman to show us? What I mean is, since I can accurately draw these runes, why can't I make talismans?"