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Chapter 138 Why is it necessary to distinguish between ordinary people and ninjas?

"I see, so I'm supporting you to become the Fourth Hokage..."

Hashirama, still with a troubled expression, said:

"I'm very happy that younger generations still value the Hokage position so much, but..."

"Explain yourself clearly, why are you so dismissive of ninja villages?"

"The establishment of Konoha Village is not only my personal achievement, but also the expectation of everyone, bringing peace to everyone."

"I will absolutely not allow anyone to deny the ninja village arbitrarily!"

As Hashirama spoke, his attitude suddenly became serious.

At the same time, an oppressive feeling that surpassed even Tobirama Senju swept over Souji!

"Wow... Impressive! Truly worthy of being the First Hokage!"

Souji fought against this oppressive feeling with all his might.

If Hashirama Senju got serious, even someone as strong as his brother Tobirama Senju would be instantly suppressed and wouldn't dare to resist.

It has nothing to do with brotherly affection; it's simply a suppression caused by a difference in strength.

After all, this is a man who can fight Madara Uchiha with the complete Nine-Tails all by himself, and who can easily subdue the complete Nine-Tails with his Sage Mode ultimate move.

Even now that his physique and chakra have been raised to Kage level, Souji still managed to withstand the oppressive aura of Hashirama Senju with great difficulty without making a fool of himself.

"You've misunderstood..."

Souji calmly countered with:

"On the contrary, I would like to ask the First Hokage: do you think that the ninja village era has achieved your original intention in establishing the ninja village?"

"New souls are constantly arriving in the underworld, so you must be quite aware of the situation in the human world, right?"

"While the ninja world is no longer like the Warring States period, where battles were almost uninterrupted, it has only prolonged the duration of warfare, and relatively speaking..."

"Because the scale of the ninja village is much larger than that of the ninja clans during the Warring States period, once a war breaks out, the scale will be even larger and the casualties will be even more severe!"

"In the First Shinobi World War, the Second Hokage died. In the Second Shinobi World War, your grandson, Nawaki, died at the young age of twelve.

Now, the world is in the midst of the Third Shinobi World War.

Your Senju clan... apart from Lady Tsunade, there are only a few clan members left."

"I would like to ask, is this the original intention behind establishing the ninja village?"

"..."

Hashirama was speechless for a moment.

Tobirama glared at Souji and shouted:

"You're being too presumptuous!"

"Alright, Tobirama, stop it."

Hashirama immediately stopped the displeased Tobirama, thought for a moment, and said softly:

"You didn't experience the Warring States period, so you don't understand how tragic it was back then.

Even young children..."

Souji shook his head slightly, stopping Hashirama from continuing.

"I know how tragic it was in the past from the records, and I don't mean to say that the establishment of the ninja village was useless or should not have been established."

"It's just that from the Warring States period to the ninja village era, if the only changes in the ninja world are that the intervals between wars have become longer and the average age of participants has increased slightly, then there really isn't any fundamental change..."

"My meaning has always been the same: the ninja world must continue to move forward and enter the next new era after the ninja villages!"

"The new era..."

Hashirama muttered to himself.

His grandson, Shengshu...

As Souji said, because new souls are constantly coming to the underworld, he has a general understanding of the situation in the human world.

He even witnessed the arrival of the rope tree.

Because of its weak strength and weak soul, the rope tree dissipated much faster, and thus it disappeared very early.

As a grandfather, he watched his twelve-year-old grandson die and go to the underworld, and then watched his soul dissipate.

This feeling is truly incredibly complex.

Although the Warring States period was even more brutal, with children as young as a few years old participating in battles, after the establishment of ninja villages, the age for participation was raised to around ten years old...

This certainly doesn't represent a fundamental change.

Tobirama snorted coldly and asked:

"We've heard your complaints about the ninja village, but... It's easy just to criticize, but what about this new era you're talking about?

What fundamental changes do you want to make?"

"Second Hokage, as I just said, I want to change ninjas from 'people who fight using ninjutsu' to simply 'people who use ninjutsu'."

"Specifically, what does that mean?" Tobirama pressed.

"Just like metal, once forged, it shouldn't only be used to make weapons.

Besides that, it can have other uses that benefit the public.

For example, it can be used to heal the sick and save lives, to grow crops, or, like the First Hokage, to build houses and bridges, etc..."

"Ninjutsu can be used for purposes other than combat, so ninjas don't have to be confined to situations where they have to fight."

"Hmm, I see, I understand what you're thinking..."

Hashirama and Tobirama exchanged a glance. Hashirama crossed his arms and said in a deep voice:

"Your idea is indeed very good. Actually, we have considered it before, but…"

"It's impossible to do in reality."

Tobirama heard what Hashirama hadn't said.

"If we really do as you say, then it will turn into us ninjas robbing ordinary people of their jobs."

"That would only cause another kind of chaos, and eventually it would turn into a conflict between ordinary people and ninjas!"

The Souji looked somewhat surprised and said:

"Oh?

So you actually thought of that?

To be able to come up with this idea back in that era, you truly deserve to be called two Hokage-samas, legendary figures in the ninja world!"

"Hmph, there's no need for such flattery."

Hashirama spoke again:

"Just like Tobirama said, it's not that we haven't thought about this, but because it would create conflict with ordinary people, we can't promote the use of ninjutsu for things other than combat on a large scale, as you said."

"Small-scale operations are possible, but they're all small-scale and the output and income are too little to sustain the operation of the entire ninja village."

Listening to the words of the Hokage brothers, Souji nodded slightly.

"That's true. Small-scale operations don't have much effect, while large-scale operations can lead to conflict with ordinary people."

"But... why must we distinguish between ordinary people and ninjas?"

"What? You..."

Some of them understood the meaning behind the Souji's words, and both of them had a slight change in their eyes at the same time.

"Although chakra training is not easy, chakra itself is something that everyone has."

"Therefore, we can spread the training of chakra and ninjutsu so that everyone can train. In this way, there will no longer be a distinction between ordinary people and ninjas.

Everyone will be both an ordinary person and a ninja."

"That's why I said earlier that we need to change the definition of a ninja to simply 'a person who performs ninjutsu'."

Hashirama couldn't help but show a surprised expression upon hearing this.

"You...your idea is too shocking for ordinary people! Lord Daimyo will not agree to it!"

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